Habe jetzt mal systematisch gleichzeitig dvb-t und dvb-s (VDR mit Sat und T Karte) aufgenommen, da mir aufgefallen war das sehr häufig Artefakte in meinen Aufnahmen zu finden waren. (Ich nehme bevorzugt via T auf, da ich dann den S frei halte und der hat schlappe 100 Sender mehr ...)
Und siehe da die Dateigrössen unterscheiden sich enorm - ich war doch ganz schön überrascht. Die Qualität ist in der T Version ist manchen Szenen nicht besser als bei einer mit tmpgenc erstellten SVCD.
Habe die Files dann von PVAInstrumento scannen lassen. Ganz deutlich spürbar sind die Kompessionsverluste bei VOX und Pro Sieben. Fast gar nicht messbar sind Unterschiede z.B. beim Ersten.
Gibt es dafür irgendeine Erklärung? Vor allem bei VOX ist doch echt der Hammer. Wie sieht das in den anderen DVB-T Gebieten aus ?
ProSieben
Summary:
Verzeichnis von v:\video\DVB-S#5FProSieben_TERRALUNA_-_Menschen,_Storys,_Abenteuer\2004-10-20.03.00.99.99.rec
20.10.2004 03:59 1.537.841.003 001.vdr
Video bitrate: max 9323 , avg 3248 kbps
Verzeichnis von v:\video\DVB-T#5FProSieben_TERRALUNA_-_Menschen,_Storys,_Abenteuer\2004-10-20.03.00.99.99.rec
20.10.2004 03:59 1.297.968.379 001.vdr
Video bitrate: max 7138 , avg 2732 kbps
VOX
Summary:
Verzeichnis von v:\video\DVBS_VOX_Gute_Zeiten,_schlechte_Zeiten\20 04-10-20.14.31.99.99.rec
20.10.2004 15:11 1.128.677.984 001.vdr
Video bitrate: max 7075 , avg 3574 kbps
Verzeichnis von v:\video\DVBT_VOX_Gute_Zeiten,_schlechte_Zeiten\20 04-10-20.14.31.99.99.rec
20.10.2004 15:11 721.055.928 001.vdr
Video bitrate: max 7209 , avg 2208 kbps
SAT1
Summary:
Verzeichnis von v:\video\DVBS_Zwei_bei_Kallwass\2004-10-19.13.56.99.99.rec
19.10.2004 15:06 1.524.130.444 001.vdr
Video bitrate: max 6587 , avg 2689 kbps
Verzeichnis von v:\video\DVBT_Zwei_bei_Kallwass\2004-10-19.13.56.99.99.rec
19.10.2004 15:06 1.443.530.825 001.vdr
Video bitrate: max 6555 , avg 2553 kbps
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VOX
Summary:
Verzeichnis von v:\video\DVBS_VOX_Gute_Zeiten,_schlechte_Zeiten\20 04-10-20.14.31.99.99.rec
20.10.2004 15:11 1.128.677.984 001.vdr
Video bitrate: max 7075 , avg 3574 kbps
Verzeichnis von v:\video\DVBT_VOX_Gute_Zeiten,_schlechte_Zeiten\20 04-10-20.14.31.99.99.rec
20.10.2004 15:11 721.055.928 001.vdr
Video bitrate: max 7209 , avg 2208 kbps
Details:
***
*** PVAStrumento 2.0.30
*** running at 10-20-2004 23:32
***
Stream info for
V:\video\DVBS_VOX_Gute_Zeiten,_schlechte_Zeiten\20 04-10-20.14.31.99.99.rec\001.vdr
VIDEO: Resolution 720 x 576
(full D1)
Aspect ratio is 4:3
Frame rate 25.00 fps
Nominal bitrate 7000000 bps
first PTS: 12:09:19.901
AUDIO: MPEG-1, Layer 2
48.0 kHz, Stereo
Bitrate 192 kbps
Frame Length 24.0 ms (576 bytes)
first PTS: 12:09:19.262
Audio starts 639 ms early
(->video delay on muxing)
==SCANNING==
Syncing: Cutting audio.
No integer frame match for A/V.
ALERT> 18 audio frames missing at 00:39:44.600
No integer frame match for A/V.
ALERT> Temporal structure wrong in GOP - dropping
Done.
Video bitrate: max 7075 , avg 3574 kbps
Video: 59626 pics 00:39:45.040
Audio: 99376 frames 00:39:45.024
(Autosaving log to V:\video\DVBS_VOX_Gute_Zeiten,_schlechte_Zeiten\20 04-10-20.14.31.99.99.rec\001.vdr .txt)
***
*** PVAStrumento 2.0.30
*** running at 10-20-2004 23:32
***
Stream info for
V:\video\DVBT_VOX_Gute_Zeiten,_schlechte_Zeiten\20 04-10-20.14.31.99.99.rec\001.vdr
VIDEO: Resolution 720 x 576
(full D1)
Aspect ratio is 4:3
Frame rate 25.00 fps
Nominal bitrate 15000000 bps
first PTS: 11:09:06.486
AUDIO: MPEG-1, Layer 2
48.0 kHz, Stereo
Bitrate 192 kbps
Frame Length 24.0 ms (576 bytes)
first PTS: 11:09:06.243
Audio starts 242 ms early
(->video delay on muxing)
==SCANNING==
Syncing: Cutting audio.
ALERT> 104 video frames missing at 00:00:00.000
No integer frame match for A/V.
Syncing: Cutting audio.
ALERT> 9 video frames missing at 00:00:04.320
No integer frame match for A/V.
Syncing: Cutting audio.
No integer frame match for A/V.
ALERT> 1 audio frame missing at 00:39:53.661
ALERT> 19 audio frames missing at end
No integer frame match for A/V.
1 audio frame(s) missing at the end.
ALERT> Temporal structure wrong in GOP - dropping
Done.
Video bitrate: max 7209 , avg 2208 kbps
Video: 59737 pics 00:39:49.480
Audio: 99564 frames 00:39:49.536
(Autosaving log to V:\video\DVBT_VOX_Gute_Zeiten,_schlechte_Zeiten\20 04-10-20.14.31.99.99.rec\001.vdr .txt)
ProSieben
Summary:
Verzeichnis von v:\video\DVB-S#5FProSieben_TERRALUNA_-_Menschen,_Storys,_Abenteuer\2004-10-20.03.00.99.99.rec
20.10.2004 03:59 1.537.841.003 001.vdr
Video bitrate: max 9323 , avg 3248 kbps
Verzeichnis von v:\video\DVB-T#5FProSieben_TERRALUNA_-_Menschen,_Storys,_Abenteuer\2004-10-20.03.00.99.99.rec
20.10.2004 03:59 1.297.968.379 001.vdr
Video bitrate: max 7138 , avg 2732 kbps
Details:
***
*** PVAStrumento 2.0.30
*** running at 10-20-2004 09:34
***
Stream info for
V:\video\DVB-S#5FProSieben_TERRALUNA_-_Menschen,_Storys,_Abenteuer\2004-10-20.03.00.99.99.rec\001.vdr
VIDEO: Resolution 720 x 576
(full D1)
Aspect ratio is 4:3
Frame rate 25.00 fps
Nominal bitrate 15000000 bps
first PTS: 09:49:52.097
AUDIO: MPEG-1, Layer 2
48.0 kHz, Stereo
Bitrate 192 kbps
Frame Length 24.0 ms (576 bytes)
first PTS: 09:49:51.564
Audio starts 533 ms early
(->video delay on muxing)
==SCANNING==
Syncing: Cutting audio.
No integer frame match for A/V.
[ Found a GOP with more than 15 pics.
See summary for total number at end. ]
ALERT> 14 audio frames missing at 00:59:14.586
No integer frame match for A/V.
ALERT> Temporal structure wrong in GOP - dropping
Done.
Video bitrate: max 9323 , avg 3248 kbps
Video: 88873 pics 00:59:14.920
Audio: 148121 frames 00:59:14.904
DVD (un)compliance:
26 GOPS with more than 15 frames
(Autosaving log to V:\video\DVB-S#5FProSieben_TERRALUNA_-_Menschen,_Storys,_Abenteuer\2004-10-20.03.00.99.99.rec\001.vdr .txt)
***
*** PVAStrumento 2.0.30
*** running at 10-20-2004 09:34
***
Stream info for
V:\video\DVB-T#5FProSieben_TERRALUNA_-_Menschen,_Storys,_Abenteuer\2004-10-20.03.00.99.99.rec\001.vdr
VIDEO: Resolution 720 x 576
(full D1)
Aspect ratio is 4:3
Frame rate 25.00 fps
Nominal bitrate 15000000 bps
first PTS: 09:49:47.777
AUDIO: MPEG-1, Layer 2
48.0 kHz, Stereo
Bitrate 192 kbps
Frame Length 24.0 ms (576 bytes)
first PTS: 09:49:47.100
Audio starts 677 ms early
(->video delay on muxing)
==SCANNING==
Syncing: Cutting audio.
ALERT> 6 video frames missing at 00:00:00.000
No integer frame match for A/V.
ALERT> 13 audio frames missing at 00:00:00.378
Syncing: Cutting audio.
No integer frame match for A/V.
[ Found a GOP with more than 15 pics.
See summary for total number at end. ]
ALERT> 8 audio frames missing at 00:58:51.690
No integer frame match for A/V.
12 audio frame(s) missing at the end.
ALERT> Temporal structure wrong in GOP - dropping
Done.
Video bitrate: max 7138 , avg 2732 kbps
Video: 88289 pics 00:58:51.560
Audio: 147164 frames 00:58:51.936
DVD (un)compliance:
26 GOPS with more than 15 frames
(Autosaving log to V:\video\DVB-T#5FProSieben_TERRALUNA_-_Menschen,_Storys,_Abenteuer\2004-10-20.03.00.99.99.rec\001.vdr .txt)
SAT1
Summary:
Verzeichnis von v:\video\DVBS_Zwei_bei_Kallwass\2004-10-19.13.56.99.99.rec
19.10.2004 15:06 1.524.130.444 001.vdr
Video bitrate: max 6587 , avg 2689 kbps
Verzeichnis von v:\video\DVBT_Zwei_bei_Kallwass\2004-10-19.13.56.99.99.rec
19.10.2004 15:06 1.443.530.825 001.vdr
Video bitrate: max 6555 , avg 2553 kbps
Details:
***
*** PVAStrumento 2.0.30
*** running at 10-20-2004 00:54
***
Stream info for
V:\video\DVBS_Zwei_bei_Kallwass\2004-10-19.13.56.99.99.rec\001.vdr
VIDEO: Resolution 720 x 576
(full D1)
Aspect ratio is 4:3
Frame rate 25.00 fps
Nominal bitrate 15000000 bps
first PTS: 05:48:43.064
AUDIO: MPEG-1, Layer 2
48.0 kHz, Stereo
Bitrate 192 kbps
Frame Length 24.0 ms (576 bytes)
first PTS: 05:48:42.655
Audio starts 408 ms early
(->video delay on muxing)
==SCANNING==
Syncing: Cutting audio.
No integer frame match for A/V.
[ Found a GOP with more than 15 pics.
See summary for total number at end. ]
ALERT> 19 audio frames missing at 01:10:05.591
No integer frame match for A/V.
ALERT> Temporal structure wrong in GOP - dropping
Done.
Video bitrate: max 6587 , avg 2689 kbps
Video: 105151 pics 01:10:06.040
Audio: 175252 frames 01:10:06.048
DVD (un)compliance:
20 GOPS with more than 15 frames
(Autosaving log to V:\video\DVBS_Zwei_bei_Kallwass\2004-10-19.13.56.99.99.rec\001.vdr .txt)
***
*** PVAStrumento 2.0.30
*** running at 10-20-2004 00:53
***
Stream info for
V:\video\DVBT_Zwei_bei_Kallwass\2004-10-19.13.56.99.99.rec\001.vdr
VIDEO: Resolution 720 x 576
(full D1)
Aspect ratio is 4:3
Frame rate 25.00 fps
Nominal bitrate 15000000 bps
first PTS: 05:13:32.578
AUDIO: MPEG-1, Layer 2
48.0 kHz, Stereo
Bitrate 192 kbps
Frame Length 24.0 ms (576 bytes)
first PTS: 05:13:33.380
Video starts 801 ms early
(->add audio delay)
==SCANNING==
Syncing: Cutting video.
Syncing: Cutting video.
Syncing: Cutting audio.
No integer frame match for A/V.
[ Found a GOP with more than 15 pics.
See summary for total number at end. ]
4 audio frame(s) missing at the end.
ALERT> Temporal structure wrong in GOP - dropping
Done.
Video bitrate: max 6555 , avg 2553 kbps
Video: 104458 pics 01:09:38.320
Audio: 174096 frames 01:09:38.304
DVD (un)compliance:
20 GOPS with more than 15 frames
(Autosaving log to V:\video\DVBT_Zwei_bei_Kallwass\2004-10-19.13.56.99.99.rec\001.vdr.txt)