Problem mit ProSieben auf 12544 MHz

Da ich bislang auch mit dem DECT-Problem zu kämpfen hatte will ich nun auf die neue DVB-S-Frequenz umstellen.

Leider klappt der Empfang der Programme (ProSieben, Sat1, N24 und Kabel1) gar nicht mehr!

Auch das Progrämmchen "scan" meldet nur

...
0x0000 0x0033: pmt_pid 0x0063 BetaDigital -- TELE 5 (running)
0x0000 0x0f82: pmt_pid 0x0069 BetaDigital -- BData1 (running)
Network Name 'BetaDigital'
>>> tune to: 12721:h:0:22000
WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!
>>> tune to: 12721:h:0:22000 (tuning failed)
WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!
>>> tune to: 12544:h:0:22000
WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!
>>> tune to: 12544:h:0:22000 (tuning failed)
WARNING: >>> tuning failed!!!
>>> tune to: 12051:v:0:27500
0x0000 0x4e21: pmt_pid 0x0020 ProSiebenSat.1 -- ProSieben Schweiz (running)
0x0000 0x4e22: pmt_pid 0x0401 ProSiebenSat.1 -- ProSieben Austria (running)
0x0000 0x4e23: pmt_pid 0x0402 ProSiebenSat.1 -- Kabel 1 Schweiz (running)
0x0000 0x4e24: pmt_pid 0x0403 ProSiebenSat.1 -- Kabel 1 Austria (running)
0x0000 0x4e25: pmt_pid 0x0404 ProSiebenSat.1 -- SAT.1 A (running)
0x0000 0x4e26: pmt_pid 0x0065 ProSiebenSat.1 -- SAT.1 CH (running)
...

D. h. also, dass er auf 12544 MHz gar nichts findet!

Hat einer eine Idee, woran das liegen könnte? Irgendwelche Tips?

Steve

Also das ist sehr gemischt.

Hier mal die Ergebnisse von scan:

>>> tune to: 10773:h:0:22000
>>> tune to: 10788:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 10817:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 10832:h:0:22000
>>> tune to: 10847:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 10861:h:0:22000
>>> tune to: 10876:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 10920:h:0:22000
>>> tune to: 10979:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 11038:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 11097:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 11156:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 11317:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 11435:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 11479:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 11508:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 11538:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 11567:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 11597:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 11670:h:0:22000
>>> tune to: 11685:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 11719:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 11739:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 11758:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 11778:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 11797:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 11817:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 11836:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 11856:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 11875:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 11895:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 11914:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 11914:h:0:27500 (tuning failed)
>>> tune to: 11934:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 11953:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 11973:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 11992:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12012:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12031:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12051:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12070:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12090:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12109:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12129:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12148:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12168:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12187:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12207:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12226:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12246:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12265:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12285:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12304:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12324:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12343:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12363:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12382:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12402:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12421:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12441:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12460:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12460:h:0:27500 (tuning failed)
>>> tune to: 12480:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12515:h:0:22000
>>> tune to: 12515:h:0:22000 (tuning failed)
>>> tune to: 12522:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 12522:v:0:22000 (tuning failed)
>>> tune to: 12544:h:0:22000
>>> tune to: 12544:h:0:22000 (tuning failed)
>>> tune to: 12551:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 12574:h:0:22000
>>> tune to: 12574:h:0:22000 (tuning failed)
>>> tune to: 12580:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 12580:v:0:22000 (tuning failed)
>>> tune to: 12603:h:0:22000
>>> tune to: 12603:h:0:22000 (tuning failed)
>>> tune to: 12610:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 12610:v:0:22000 (tuning failed)
>>> tune to: 12633:h:0:22000
>>> tune to: 12633:h:0:22000 (tuning failed)
>>> tune to: 12640:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 12640:v:0:22000 (tuning failed)
>>> tune to: 12662:h:0:22000
>>> tune to: 12662:h:0:22000 (tuning failed)
>>> tune to: 12669:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 12669:v:0:22000 (tuning failed)
>>> tune to: 12692:h:0:22000
>>> tune to: 12692:h:0:22000 (tuning failed)
>>> tune to: 12699:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 12699:v:0:22000 (tuning failed)
>>> tune to: 12721:h:0:22000
>>> tune to: 12721:h:0:22000 (tuning failed)

Im 12551er habe ich
ASTRA SDT
Astra Vision
Bloomberg TV Germany
Chamber TV
fresh 4U
L1MBURG Radio
L1MBURG TV
LibertyTV FR
LUXE.TV SD
M6 Boutique
PVR service
QVC Deutschland
RTL Tele Letzebuerg

Kann es vielleicht am DiSEQ liegen? Kann/muss ich da was einstellen?

Steve

Nee, ehrlich gesagt kenne ich diese Datei nicht mal ...
Ist das eine conf-Datei, die von dem Utility "scan" (also nicht vom VDR) gelesen wird? Meine Scans habe ich absichtlich ohne laufenden VDR gemacht.

Ich finde auffällig, dass die Kombination Hi-Band + 22 Msymbols offensichtlich die ärgsten Probleme macht.

Hier übrigens noch mal als Übersicht die Resultate eines neuen Scans:

Frequenz Pol. kSymbols ZF
10773 h 0 22000 1023
10788 v 0 22000 1038
10817 v 0 22000 1067
10832 h 0 22000 1082
10847 v 0 22000 1097
10861 h 0 22000 1111
10876 v 0 22000 1126
10920 h 0 22000 1170
10979 v 0 22000 1229
11038 v 0 22000 1288
11097 v 0 22000 1347
11156 v 0 22000 1406
11317 v 0 22000 1567
11435 v 0 22000 1685
11479 v 0 22000 1729
11508 v 0 22000 1758
11538 v 0 22000 1788
11567 v 0 22000 1817
11597 v 0 22000 1847
11670 h 0 22000 1920
11685 v 0 22000 1935
11719 h 0 27500 1119
11739 v 0 27500 1139
11758 h 0 27500 1158
11778 v 0 27500 1178
11797 h 0 27500 1197
11817 v 0 27500 1217
11836 h 0 27500 1236
11856 v 0 27500 1256
11875 h 0 27500 1275
11895 v 0 27500 1295
11914 h 0 27500 failed 1314
11934 v 0 27500 1334
11953 h 0 27500 1353
11973 v 0 27500 1373
11992 h 0 27500 1392
12012 v 0 27500 1412
12031 h 0 27500 1431
12051 v 0 27500 1451
12070 h 0 27500 1470
12090 v 0 27500 1490
12109 h 0 27500 1509
12129 v 0 27500 1529
12148 h 0 27500 1548
12168 v 0 27500 1568
12187 h 0 27500 1587
12207 v 0 27500 1607
12226 h 0 27500 1626
12246 v 0 27500 1646
12265 h 0 27500 1665
12285 v 0 27500 1685
12304 h 0 27500 1704
12324 v 0 27500 1724
12343 h 0 27500 1743
12363 v 0 27500 1763
12382 h 0 27500 1782
12402 v 0 27500 1802
12421 h 0 27500 1821
12441 v 0 27500 1841
12460 h 0 27500 1860
12480 v 0 27500 1880
12515 h 0 22000 failed 1915
12522 v 0 22000 failed 1922
12544 h 0 22000 failed 1944
12551 v 0 22000 1951
12574 h 0 22000 failed 1974
12580 v 0 22000 failed 1980
12603 h 0 22000 failed 2003
12610 v 0 22000 failed 2010
12633 h 0 22000 failed 2033
12640 v 0 22000 failed 2040
12662 h 0 22000 failed 2062
12669 v 0 22000 failed 2069
12692 h 0 22000 failed 2092
12699 v 0 22000 failed 2099
12721 h 0 22000 failed 2121

Wenn es irgendwo einen unbeabsichtigten Tiefpass gäbe würde mich schon wundern, wenn er genau an der 27500/22000-Grenze liegt?

Steve

Ich habe jetzt mal das Kabel etwas umgelegt und bei offenen Gehäuse probiert (der Tuner auf der Technotrend Budget war SEHR heiss!).

Jetzt geht's und ich habe nur noch 4 nicht empfangbare Frequenzen.

Mal beobachten, wie sich das ganze bei leicht modifizierter Kühlung im geschlossenen Gehäuse verhält ...

Vielleicht war ja das Umlegen des Kabels der richtige Tip?

Steve

Ich bin mir nicht sicher, aber könnte mir vorstellen, dass Du recht hast:

>>> tune to: 10773:h:0:22000
>>> tune to: 10788:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 10817:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 10832:h:0:22000
>>> tune to: 10847:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 10861:h:0:22000
>>> tune to: 10876:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 10920:h:0:22000
>>> tune to: 10979:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 11038:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 11097:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 11156:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 11317:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 11435:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 11479:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 11508:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 11538:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 11567:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 11597:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 11670:h:0:22000
>>> tune to: 11685:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 11719:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 11739:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 11758:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 11778:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 11797:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 11817:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 11836:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 11856:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 11875:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 11895:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 11914:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 11914:h:0:27500 (tuning failed) -> HDTV
>>> tune to: 11934:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 11953:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 11973:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 11992:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12012:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12031:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12051:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12070:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12090:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12109:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12129:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12148:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12168:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12187:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12207:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12226:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12246:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12265:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12285:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12304:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12324:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12343:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12363:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12382:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12402:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12421:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12441:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12460:h:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12480:v:0:27500
>>> tune to: 12515:h:0:22000
>>> tune to: 12522:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 12522:v:0:22000 (tuning failed) -> HDTV
>>> tune to: 12544:h:0:22000
>>> tune to: 12551:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 12574:h:0:22000
>>> tune to: 12580:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 12580:v:0:22000 (tuning failed) -> gibt's laut Astra-Liste nicht
>>> tune to: 12603:h:0:22000
>>> tune to: 12610:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 12633:h:0:22000
>>> tune to: 12640:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 12662:h:0:22000
>>> tune to: 12669:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 12692:h:0:22000
>>> tune to: 12699:v:0:22000
>>> tune to: 12699:v:0:22000 (tuning failed) -> gibt's laut Astra-Liste auch nicht
>>> tune to: 12721:h:0:22000
>>> tune to: 12721:h:0:22000 (tuning failed) -> sehr nahe am HDTV

Oops, das sind ja sogar 5 ...

Auf alle Fälle bin ich jetzt happy, dass es funktioniert und werde mal gucken, ob's wenn's heisser ist, wieder zu diesen Ausfällen kommt.

1000 Dank für deine Hilfe!

Steve