VDR Configuration vs MultiDEC for DVB-s

zbych · 14. Juni 2004

Hi

First I do not write in German, I can just a litle bit read german
But anyway I tried to navigate in this forum.

Second: I have problem.
Lately I have installed VDR (the latest version) and with success
I am already able to watch program like ZDF or CNN (Astra).
Also it is working with lirc module - however still fighting with the LED device to
receive anything from remote control.

OK but the problem what I have and couldnt solve yet (trying to fix it already during two nights )
is the diseq.config file.
I have a SAT antena with 4 LNB's. I have configured them to receive signals from ASTRA, HOTBIRD, THORN and SIRIUS. However unfortunately I have a wall an the way to get THORN and SIRIUS works. But ASTRA and HOTBIRD works - what I used in MultiDEC program under Windows OS.
Just the Windows crashed so often so I moved to linux and to VDR.
But I cannot make the diseq.conf configuration. I tried many lines - given in VDR example, found in google and so on - and it doesnt works. I tried also to understand what those lines means and write them by myself by tries and errors but without success. So I gave up and please help.

For sure the diseq.conf file works because if I rewrite wrongly lines for ASTRA I do not get channels (ZDF or CNN) working. So I suppose the deiseq.conf file is considered in vdr. I made in setup the ON for Diseq.

OK. So please if somebody couls help me to write this diseq.conf file
The configuration for MultiDEC program was like that:

ASTRA HOTBIRD
LBN1 LBN2 LBN3 LBN4
Min Freq: 10700 Not used 10700 Not used
Max Freq: 12750 12750
LOF-low: 9750 9750
Schalfrag: 11700 11700
LOF-High: 10600 10600

LNB-Stomversogung: Checked ON Checked ON
22kHz Umsh Low/High: Checked ON Checked ON
Mini Diseq: Checked OFF Checked OFF

Tone-Burst: Keiner Keiner
Pos A Pos A
Opt A Opt B

Please help.
Can somebody tell me how this diseq.conf should loook like.

Zbyszek
Please reply also to zbych@aass.oru.se - I dont know if I checked properly to be noticed if an answer arives

zbych · 14. Juni 2004

I see this post doesnt look like I made it so

I will write the MultiDEC configuration again but differently

LBN1 ASTRA
Min Freq. 10700
Max Freq. 12750
LOF-low 9750
Schalfrag: 11750
LOF-High: 10600
LNB-Stomversogung: Checked ON
22kHz Umsh Low/High: Chekced ON

Mini Diseq: OFF
Tone-Burst: Keiner
Pos A
Opt A

LNB2 <- Not used

LNB3 <- HOTBIRD
Min Freq. 10700
Max Freq. 12750
LOF-low 9750
Schalfrag: 11750
LOF-High: 10600
LNB-Stomversogung: Checked ON
22kHz Umsh Low/High: Chekced ON

Mini Diseq: OFF
Tone-Burst: Keiner
Pos A
Opt B

LNB4 <- Not used

Zbych

Brougs78 · 14. Juni 2004

Hi there!

I had some problems configuring the diseqc-sequences myself, but after several tries it worked. I'm using the following "Full diseqc-sequences":

Code

S19.2E  11700 V  9750  t v W15 [E0 10 38 F0] W15 A W15 t
S19.2E  99999 V 10600  t v W15 [E0 10 38 F1] W15 A W15 T
S19.2E  11700 H  9750  t V W15 [E0 10 38 F2] W15 A W15 t
S19.2E  99999 H 10600  t V W15 [E0 10 38 F3] W15 A W15 T


S13E  11700 V  9750  t v W15 [E0 10 38 F4] W15 B W15 t
S13E  99999 V 10600  t v W15 [E0 10 38 F5] W15 B W15 T
S13E  11700 H  9750  t V W15 [E0 10 38 F6] W15 B W15 t
S13E  99999 H 10600  t V W15 [E0 10 38 F7] W15 B W15 T

But in my case, Astra is received via LNB 1 and Hotbird via LNB 2. So if I'm not wrong, you would have to change the sequences for Hotbird to:

Code

S13E  11700 V  9750  t v W15 [E0 10 38 F8] W15 B W15 t
S13E  99999 V 10600  t v W15 [E0 10 38 F9] W15 B W15 T
S13E  11700 H  9750  t V W15 [E0 10 38 F10] W15 B W15 t
S13E  99999 H 10600  t V W15 [E0 10 38 F11] W15 B W15 T

So maybe it works.

Good luck,
Brougs78

zbych · 14. Juni 2004

So I did as brougs78 mentioned (I tried it before even) but still without luck.

I am in linux now so maybe some more data:

That is m diseq.conf:

# Astra19 LNB 1
S19.2E 11700 V 9750 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F0] W15 A W15 t
S19.2E 99999 V 10600 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F1] W15 A W15 T
S19.2E 11700 H 9750 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F2] W15 A W15 t
S19.2E 99999 H 10600 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F3] W15 A W15 T

#Sirius 5 LNB2

# HotBird LNB3
S13E 11700 V 9750 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F8] W15 B W15 t
S13E 99999 V 10600 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F9] W15 B W15 T
S13E 11700 H 9750 t V W15 [E0 10 38 FA] W15 B W15 t
S13E 99999 H 10600 t V W15 [E0 10 38 FB] W15 B W15 T

# Thorn LNB 4

This is my channels.conf
:->Test
Polonia 1:11513:H:S13E:27500:162:88:0:101:5103:318:1500:0
TV POLONIA:11513:H:S13E:27500:160:80:500:101:5101:318:1500:0
Tele5:11513:H:S13E:27500:161:84:0:101:5102:318:1500:0
TVN:11410:V:S13E:27500:512:650:576:4311:260:128:1500:0
Das Erste:11837:H:S19.2E:27500:101:102:0:0:28106:1:1101:0
ZDF:11954:H:S19.2E:27500:110:120:0:0:28006:1:1079:0

I took those parameters from channels.conf somewhere in vdrportal for ASTRA and HOTBIRD. (just took some lines for testing now).
Even for TVN I rewrote it from MultiDec program run in Windows OS.

sources.config
# Satellites

S5E Sirius 2/3
S7E Eutelsat W3
S10E Eutelsat W1R
S13E Hotbird 1-(5)-6
S16E Eutelsat W2
S19.2E Astra 1B/C/E/F/G/H/2C
S21.5E Eutelsat II F3
S23.5E Astra 3A
....

setup.config:
[root@server video]# more setup.conf
ChannelInfoPos = 0
CurrentChannel = 5
CurrentVolume = 255
DefaultLifetime = 99
DefaultPriority = 50
DiSEqC = 1
EPGBugfixLevel = 2
EPGScanTimeout = 5
InstantRecordTime = 180
LnbFrequHi = 10600
LnbFrequLo = 9750
LnbSLOF = 11700
MarginStart = 2
MarginStop = 10
MarkInstantRecord = 1
MaxVideoFileSize = 2000
MenuScrollPage = 1
MinEventTimeout = 30
MinUserInactivity = 120
MultiSpeedMode = 0

Hmm I think everything should work OK - but when I run 'vdr'
I get channel 5 (Das Erste) running (of course in german) and ZDF if I press DOWN key.
However then I want to move to channel 4 (TVN) then I get "Channel not available".
First I thought that maybe parameters are wrong - so i checked in MultiDec and it works (TVN is running - uff I do not need to position the antena again )
So Do I miss something here ????
Hmm maybe I should give my lsmod:
[root@server video]# lsmod
Module Size Used by Not tainted
dvb-ttpci 305460 0
stv0299 7124 0 (unused)
dvb-core 42232 3 [dvb-ttpci stv0299]
lp 6496 0
parport_pc 14948 1
parport 26312 1 [lp parport_pc]
apm 10448 2
natsemi 16608 1 (autoclean)
nls_utf8 768 5 (autoclean)
nls_iso8859-1 2876 5 (autoclean)

The videodev, bttv, I have included in kernel.
As I checked those should be enough - I have:
more /proc/pci
Bus 0, device 10, function 0:
Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7146 (rev 1).
IRQ 11.
Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=15.Max Lat=38.
Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xea811000 [0xea8111ff].
Do I have right modules ?

i hope that all what I can provide to get some help.
Hmm Maybe I will repeat from previos posts:
I have vdr connected to Diseqc with 4LNB: wheere at LNB1 is ASTRA (Pos A Opt A) and at LNB3 is HOTBIRD (Pos A Opt B), LNB2 i LNB4 is not used (wall on the way ) - and all worked good in MultiDec - but Windows crashed often.
So can you help me to configure it in Linux

Zbych

zbych · 14. Juni 2004

Ok First:
When I press button UP I get ZDF and when I press button DOWN I et "Channel not available" instead of TVN.

I also wanted to mention that I have installed:

[root@server vdr]# ll
total 1064
lrwxr-xr-x 1 root root 20 Jun 9 23:46 DVB -> linux-dvb.2003-11-08/
drwxr-xr-x 6 500 users 4096 Nov 8 2003 linux-dvb.2003-11-08/
-rw-rw-r-- 1 zbych zbych 621594 Apr 24 01:32 linux-dvb.2003-11-08.tar.bz2
lrwxr-xr-x 1 root root 9 Jun 9 23:46 VDR -> vdr-1.2.6/
drwxr-xr-x 4 500 users 4096 Jun 10 02:14 vdr-1.2.6/
-rw-rw-r-- 1 zbych zbych 367069 Apr 24 01:32 vdr-1.2.6.tar.bz2

DVB: linux-dvb.2003-11-08.tar.bz2
VDR: vdr-1.2.6.tar.bz2

Those two packages were together when I downloaded them few days/weeks ago
Should I install something else instead. I have mandrake 9.0 installed.

Zbych

kleini · 14. Juni 2004

The entries in the diseqc.conf depend on your multi switch between the four LNBs. Does it support only DiseqC 1.2 you have to use voltage and tone changings. If it supports DiseqC 2.0 you only need the Hexcodes between the square brackets.

Regards,

Kleini

Brougs78 · 14. Juni 2004

Hi!

Your config-files look fine to me, so maybe it is another problem. I can tell you, that I hat some miserable experiences with configuring Diseqc. First it didn't work on the first machine, so I gave up. On a second VDR with almost the same hardware ... even the same Diseqc-Multiswitch it ran out of the box. So I tried the configs from the second machine on the first one, but no success.
A few VDR-(sub)Releases later, Diseqc worked even on the first machine with no change of the Hardware at all.

Zitat

Original von zbych
Hmm I think everything should work OK - but when I run 'vdr'
I get channel 5 (Das Erste) running (of course in german) and ZDF if I press DOWN key.
However then I want to move to channel 4 (TVN) then I get "Channel not available".

You wrote, that you get "Channel not available", but you shouldn't get that message. If I use a wrong Diseqc-config the screen stays black with no message at all. Is it possible that TVN is encrypted? Due to your channels.conf it is ...

Maybe you should try another channel like NBC:

Code

NBC:11054:hC56:S13.0E:27500:550:551:553:0:8008:318:12700:0

Do I get this right, that Astra works fine but Hotbird doesn't?

Which version of VDR do you use btw.?

Bye,
Brougs78

zbych · 14. Juni 2004

It is quite old (I have bought it maybe 2 yesr ago) so I guess it supports only 1.2 version.

anyway - how I can check it.

And let assume that it support the 1.2 version - then do I have right diseq.conf file ?

I can even try both diseq.cinf files (for 1.2 and 2.0 version - it is just two version )

Zbych

zbych · 14. Juni 2004

Version of VDR and DVB I wrote before

> NBC:11054:hC56:S13.0E:27500:550:551:553:0:8008:318:12700:0

What you mean by "hC56" third field. As I know it should be H or V only

As I know TVN is not encrypted. But I can check this NBC.

Zbych
Ps Thx for helping

zbych · 14. Juni 2004

Already checked NBC with H and with V
And as you said it is "black screen"

However for TVN still got "Channel not available"

ZDF and Das Earste works

Zbych

:->Test
Polonia 1:11513:H:S13E:27500:162:88:0:101:5103:318:1500:0
TV POLONIA:11513:H:S13E:27500:160:80:500:101:5101:318:1500:0
Tele5:11513:H:S13E:27500:161:84:0:101:5102:318:1500:0
TVN:11410:V:S13E:27500:512:650:576:4311:260:128:1500:0
NBC:11054:H:S13E:27500:550:551:553:0:8008:318:12700:0
Das Erste:11837:H:S19.2E:27500:101:102:0:0:28106:1:1101:0
ZDF:11954:H:S19.2E:27500:110:120:0:0:28006:1:1079:0

Brougs78 · 14. Juni 2004

Hi!

Zitat

Original von zbych
Version of VDR and DVB I wrote before

Sorry, I was just writing the reply, while you gave the answer.

Zitat

Original von zbych
What you mean by "hC56" third field.

This is the new format in vdr-1.3.x. If you substitude this by H the whole line should work with your version too.
I guess you also have to change S13.0E to S13E

Bye,
Brougs78

EDIT: You're too fast again ....
Sorry but I have to leave now. Maybe I get an idea while I'm drinking a beer.

zbych · 14. Juni 2004

Yeah - I am also going to drink a beer and watch a match for now

Zbych
Ps. Where I can get this vdr 1.3.x ?

Brougs78 · 14. Juni 2004

Hi!

You can get the newest version on the Homepage of the Author, but it is the developer-branch so it is still considered unstable. Nevertheless there are a lot of people in this forum, who use that version.

Back to Diseqc:
Have you also changed the Source, i.e. "S13.0E" to "S13E"?

The only other advice I can give you is to try different settings again. Maybe increasing the Wait-Statement (e.g. W30 instead of W15) will help

Code

diseqc.conf
# Full DiSEqC sequence:


#S19.2E 11700 V 9750 [E0 10 38 F0] W15 [E1 10 38 F0] W15 [E1 10 38 F0]
#S19.2E 99999 V 9750 [E0 10 38 F1] W15 [E1 10 38 F1] W15 [E1 10 38 F1]
#S19.2E 11700 H 9750 [E0 10 38 F2] W15 [E1 10 38 F2] W15 [E1 10 38 F2]
#S19.2E 99999 H 9750 [E0 10 38 F3] W50 [E1 10 38 F3] W15 [E1 10 38 F3]


#S13E 11700 V 9750 [E0 10 38 F4] W15 [E0 10 38 F4] W15 [E1 10 38 F4]
#S13E 99999 V 9750 [E0 10 38 F5] W15 [E0 10 38 F5] W15 [E1 10 38 F5]
#S13E 11700 H 9750 [E0 10 38 F6] W15 [E0 10 38 F6] W15 [E1 10 38 F6]
#S13E 99999 H 9750 [E0 10 38 F7] W15 [E0 10 38 F7] W15 [E1 10 38 F7]


# Optimized for mini DiSEqC (aka toneburst):
#
#S19.2E 11700 V 9750 t v W15 A W15 t
#S19.2E 99999 V 10600 t v W15 A W15 T
#S19.2E 11700 H 9750 t V W15 A W15 t
#S19.2E 99999 H 10600 t V W15 A W15 T
#
#S13E 11700 V 9750 t v W15 B W15 t
#S13E 99999 V 10600 t v W15 B W15 T
#S13E 11700 H 9750 t V W15 B W15 t
#S13E 99999 H 10600 t V W15 B W15 T
#
# Optimized for full DiSEqC:
#
S19.2E 11700 V 9750 [E0 10 38 F0]
S19.2E 99999 V 10600 [E0 10 38 F1]
S19.2E 11700 H 9750 [E0 10 38 F2]
S19.2E 99999 H 10600 [E0 10 38 F3]
#
#S13E 11700 V 9750 [E0 10 38 F4]
#S13E 99999 V 10600 [E0 10 38 F5]
#S13E 11700 H 9750 [E0 10 38 F6]
#S13E 99999 H 10600 [E0 10 38 F7]

Alles anzeigen

Of course you have to change the sequences according to your setup, but I think you know them inside out by now ....

Btw, this is the thread, where I tried to figure out the Diseqc-config.

Bye and Good Luck,
Brougs78

zbych · 15. Juni 2004

Ok

Last question just:
How can I scan channels ?

Zbych

zbych · 15. Juni 2004

Jus wanted to say:

It is working
I have ASTRA and Hotbird
The solutions was
diseq.conf

S19.2E 11700 V 9750 [E0 10 38 F0] W15 [E1 10 38 F0] W15 [E1 10 38 F0]
S19.2E 99999 V 9750 [E0 10 38 F1] W15 [E1 10 38 F1] W15 [E1 10 38 F1]
S19.2E 11700 H 9750 [E0 10 38 F2] W15 [E1 10 38 F2] W15 [E1 10 38 F2]
S19.2E 99999 H 9750 [E0 10 38 F3] W50 [E1 10 38 F3] W15 [E1 10 38 F3]

S13E 11700 V 9750 [E0 10 38 F8]
S13E 99999 V 10600 [E0 10 38 F9]
S13E 11700 H 9750 [E0 10 38 FA]
S13E 99999 H 10600 [E0 10 38 FB]

That is only combination which works.
The S19.2E from full seting and S13E from optimized
Why like that - no idea but works

Thanks a lot guys :)))))

So question- so now how I can scan those two satelites ?
And what is so good in the vdr 1.3.x that I should move to vdr 1.3

Zbych

Ps.
Thanks for reply

Brougs78 · 15. Juni 2004

Hi!

Good to hear your success. The funny thing is, that the full instructions for Hotbird should work aswell, because the commands are only repeated ... but anyway, as long as it works I wouldn't care either.

AFAIK you can scan with the Program scan in /DVB/apps/scan. Just type "make" in the directory. I haven't used it because NBC is almost the only Hotbird-channel in my list.

Main advantages of 1.3.x over 1.2.6 are:
- Integrated Autopid (also no scanning of channels neccesary ... at leat on Astra it works)
- New Skinning-Feature since 1.3.7 (e.g. www.vdrskins.org)
- VPS

For a full feature-list you would have to read the HISTORY-File of vdr.

Bye,
Brougs78

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