LCDProc

Hi,

leider finde ich im Forum keine Lösung für mein Problem.H
ab ein Problem mit dem LCDproc. Wenn ich das im Setup aktieviere kommt nach einem neustart diese Meldung:

"something went wrong. VDR respawning to fast, sleeping one minute""

Ich wollte das LCD mit dem Hardware WakeOn Plugin von Frank Jepsen nutzen.
In welchen Dateien muß ich denn den richtigen Com-Port einstellen?
Oder leigt es an was anderem?
Gruß Christoph

Ich hab jetzt LCDproc im Setup aktiviert und in der rcStart kurz vor
"execute /etc/init.d/runvdr start"
das hier eingegeben:
"execute /usr/bin/LCDd&"
oder
"execute /usr/bin/LCDd &"
oder
"execute /usr/bin/LCDd"

Aber keine möglichkeit funktioniert.

Hab ich auch schon. Klapt aber nicht.

Ich würd ja gern mal meine Logread hier posten, aber wie bekomme ich die ohne Netzwerk auf meinen Windows rechner. Ich hab die mal auf ne Diskette gezogen, aber wenn man die unter Windows dann öffnet, stehen da mehr oder weniger nur wirre Zeichen (um das Diskettenlaufwerk ans laufen zu kriegen, muß ich immer die Knoppix-Cd einlegen, vielleicht kann mir das auch einer erklären, warum das unter Linvdr nicht klappt)

Jetzt hab ich aber endlich mal ne Fehlermeldung. Hab LCDproc manual gestartet

"LCDd -c./LCDd.conf -d HD44780"

Dann kam

"LCDd: /lib/lib.c.so.6: version ´GLIBC_2.3´ not found (required by LCDd)

Hoffe, ihr könnt mir helfen.

@GrünschnabelFunktioniert nicht.

Im Setup von Linvdr muß doch auch noch ein x bei LCDproc stehen, oder?

@ madmax
1. das LCD läuft
2. ich habe das LCD nicht am parallelport angeschlossen, da ich das WakeUp-Modul von Frank Jepsen nutze, welches an den seriellen Port angeschlossen ist
den Rest habe ich auch gemacht.

Was ich nicht weiß, ist, was für einen Port ich in der LCDd.conf einstellen muß
(eingestellt ist Port=0x378). Unter connection Type habe ich seriallcd.

Die Seiten kenn ich langsam schon auswendig und genauso habe ich es eingestellt.
So langsam wird amn wahnsinig darüber.

Auf den Download Seiten von Frank gibt´s ne Datei, in welcher die LCDd.conf drin ist und welche man über die normale drüberspielen soll. Hab ich auch gemacht.
Im übrigen würde ich meine LCDd.conf gerne posten, kriege aber mein Diskettenlaufwerk nicht ans laufen. Wenn ich "mount floppy" eingebe kommt irgendsone Fehlermeldung.

Wenn ich versuche mein Diskettenlaufwerk einzubinden kommt diese Meldung:

"wrong fs, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0 or too many mounted file systems"

Meine LCDd.conf:

Zitat

[server]
# Server section with all kinds of settings for the LCDd server

#Driver=none
#Driver=curses
Driver=HD44780
#Driver=lcdm001
#Driver=MtxOrb
#Driver=CFontz
#
# Tells the server to load the given drivers. Multiple lines can be given.
# NOTE: You may activate several input (input only) drivers but only ONE output
# driver, which should be the first.

Bind=127.0.0.1
# Tells the driver to bind to the given interface

Port=13666
# Listen on this specified port; defaults to 13666.

#ReportLevel=5
# Sets the reporting level; defaults to 2 (warnings and errors only).

ReportToSyslog=no
# Should we report to syslog instead of stderr ? Default: no

WaitTime=5
# Sets the default time in seconds to displays a screen.

User=nobody
# User to run as. LCDd will drop its root priviledges,
# if any, and run as this user instead.

ServerScreen=no
# Enables the built-in server screen [Default: no]
# yes : always,
# no : when there are no other screens active.

Foreground=no
# The server will stay in the foreground if set to true.
# Otherwise the server will fork to background and report
# to syslog

# TIP: The following options can also be modified from the
# server menu (which requires a driver that supports input)

Heartbeat=open
# The server has serveral heartbeat modes
# on Stays on all the time
# off Stays off all the time
# slash Rotating slash all the time
# open Can be controlled by all clients

InitialHeartbeat=on
# This sets the initial heartbeat state if the heartbeat mode is "open"
# Affects the server screen only
# on Heartbeat activated
# off Heartbeat disabled
# slash Heartbeat replaced with a rotating slash

Backlight=open
# The server has serveral backlight modes
# on Stays on all the time
# off Stays off all the time
# open Can be controlled by all clients

InitialBacklight=on
# This sets the initial backlight state if the backlight mode is "open"
# Affects the server screen only

BacklightBrightness=255
# This sets the backlight brightness in state "on"
# NOTE: Not all drivers/devices support setting the brightness this
# way. Some don't support switching the backlight on/off at all,
# some can switch the backlight on or off only. If the latter is
# the case BacklightBrightness must be > 0.

BacklightOffBrightness=0
# This sets the backlight brightness in state "off"
# NOTE: Not all drivers/devices support setting the brightness this
# way. Some don't support switching the backlight on/off at all,
# some can switch the backlight on or off only. If the latter is
# the case BacklightBrightness must be = 0.

[input]
# Input section with settings that are related to input handling
# NOTE: Not all drivers have input functionality

# keypad settings
# Keyname Function
# Normal context Menu context
# ------- -------------- ------------
#
# PauseKey Pause/Continue Enter/select
# BackKey Back(Go to previous screen) Up/Left
# ForwardKey Forward(Go to next screen) Down/Right
# MainMenuKey Open main menu Exit/Cancel

#FreePauseKey=yes
# If set to yes, this prevents LCDd from handling the PauseKey itself

#FreeBackKey=yes
# If set to yes, this prevents LCDd from handling the BackKey itself

#FreeForwardKey=yes
# If set to yes, this prevents LCDd from handling the ForwardKey itself

#FreeMainMenuKey=no
# If set to yes, this prevents LCDd from handling the MainMenuKey itself
# TIP: Even if you "free" the above keys, you can still use the menu
# provided you set FreeMainMenuKey=no

# Driver sections are below this line, in alphabetical order

[bayrad]
# EMAC BayRAD driver

Arguments="fill in here"

# -d --device Select the output device to use [/dev/lcd]
# -t --type Select the LCD type (size) [20x2]
# -s --speed Set the communication speed [19200]
# -h --help Show this help information

[CFontz]
# CrystalFontz driver

# Select the output device to use [/dev/lcd]
Device=/dev/ttyS1

# Select the LCD type (size) [20x4]
Size=16x4

# Set the initial contrast [140]
Contrast=140

# The backlight brightness settings are retrieved
# from the serversection now. And can therefore be
# modified from the server menu now.

# Set the communication speed [9600]
# possible values: 1200, 2400, 4800, 9600, 19200
Speed=9600

# Set the firmware version (New means >= 2.0) [no]
# if set, set Speed to 19200
NewFirmware=no

# Reinitialize the LCD's BIOS [no]
# normally you shouldn't need this
Reboot=no

[curses]
# Curses driver

# color settings

# foreground color [blue]
foreground=blue

# background color [cyan]
background=cyan

# backlight color [red]
backlight=red

# display size [20x4]
size=20x4

# What position (X,Y) to start the left top corner at...
# Default: (7,7)
topleftx=7
toplefty=7

[GLK]
# Matrix Orbital GLK driver

# Set the output device to use [/dev/lcd]
device=/dev/lcd

# Set the initial contrast [140]
contrast=140

# Set the communication speed [19200]
speed=19200

[HD44780]
# Hitachi HD44780 driver
# See docs/hd44780_howto.txt

#CharmapFile=/etc/LCDd.charmap
#CharmapName=SED1278F_0B

Port=0x378
# Port where the LPT is. Usual values are 0x278, 0x378 and 0x3BC

ConnectionType=seriallcd
# Select what type of connection. See documentation for types.

RefreshDisplay=0
# Force full refresh of display every 5 seconds. Default: 0 (no forced refreshs)

Keypad=no
# If you have a keypad connected. Keypad layout is currently not
# configureable from the config file.

Backlight=no
# If you have a switchable backlight.

#Size=16x4
Size=16x4
# Specifies the size of the LCD.
# In case of multiple combined displays, this should be the total size.

vspan=2,2
# For multiple displays: at what 'logical' lines do the individual displays
# start.

#extended=yes
# If you want to use more than 3 HD44780 controllers on the LPT, you need to
# specify this. See documentation.

#DelayMult=2
# If your display is slow and cannot keep up with the flow of data from
# LCDd, garbage can appear on the LCDd. Set this delay factor to 2 or 4
# to increase the delays. Default: 1.

DelayBus=true
# You can reduce the inserted delays by setting this to false.
# On fast PCs it is possible your LCD does not respond correctly.
# Default: true.

Device=/dev/ttyS1
# For PIC-an-LCD connection type only: the serial device to which the LCD
# is connected. Default: /dev/lcd

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Meine logread.txt

Zitat

Dec 31 08:38:09 linvdr syslog.info syslogd started: BusyBox v1.00 (2004.11.01-04:47+0000)
Dec 31 08:38:09 linvdr user.info kernel: ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:01:04.0[A] -> GSI 5 (level, low) -> IRQ 5
Dec 31 08:38:09 linvdr user.warn kernel: 3c59x: Donald Becker and others. www.scyld.com/network/vortex.html
Dec 31 08:38:09 linvdr user.info kernel: 0000:01:04.0: 3Com PCI 3c905C Tornado at 0x2000. Vers LK1.1.19
Dec 31 08:38:09 linvdr auth.info sshd[982]: Server listening on 0.0.0.0 port 22.
Dec 31 08:38:10 linvdr daemon.info init: ^MStarting pid 991, console /dev/tty1: '/sbin/getty'
Dec 31 08:38:10 linvdr user.info kernel: Linux video capture interface: v1.00
Dec 31 08:38:10 linvdr daemon.info init: ^MStarting pid 992, console /dev/tty2: '/sbin/getty'
Dec 31 08:38:10 linvdr daemon.info init: ^MStarting pid 994, console /dev/tty3: '/sbin/getty'
Dec 31 08:38:10 linvdr daemon.info init: ^MStarting pid 996, console /dev/tty4: '/sbin/getty'
Dec 31 08:38:10 linvdr user.warn kernel: saa7146: register extension 'dvb'.
Dec 31 08:38:10 linvdr user.warn kernel: PCI: Enabling device 0000:01:01.0 (0000 -> 0002)
Dec 31 08:38:10 linvdr user.info kernel: ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:01:01.0[A] -> GSI 5 (level, low) -> IRQ 5
Dec 31 08:38:10 linvdr user.warn kernel: found saa7146 @ mem c892a400 (revision 1, irq 5) (0x13c2,0x0000).
Dec 31 08:38:10 linvdr user.warn kernel: DVB: registering new adapter (Technotrend/Hauppauge WinTV DVB-S rev1.X).
Dec 31 08:38:10 linvdr user.warn kernel: adapter has MAC addr = 00:d0:5c:03:7c:9f
Dec 31 08:38:10 linvdr user.warn kernel: dvb-ttpci: gpioirq unknown type=0 len=0
Dec 31 08:38:10 linvdr user.warn kernel: dvb-ttpci: info @ card 0: firm f0240009, rtsl b0250018, vid 71010068, app 8000261c
Dec 31 08:38:10 linvdr user.warn kernel: dvb-ttpci: firmware @ card 0 supports CI link layer interface
Dec 31 08:38:10 linvdr user.warn kernel: dvb-ttpci: Crystal audio DAC @ card 0 detected
Dec 31 08:38:10 linvdr user.warn kernel: saa7146 (0): registered device video0 [v4l2]
Dec 31 08:38:11 linvdr user.warn kernel: DVB: registering frontend 0 (ST STV0299 DVB-S)...
Dec 31 08:38:11 linvdr user.info kernel: dvb-ttpci: found av7110-0.
Dec 31 08:38:11 linvdr user.warn kernel: saa7146: register extension 'budget dvb'.
Dec 31 08:38:11 linvdr user.warn kernel: saa7146: register extension 'budget_ci dvb'.
Dec 31 08:38:11 linvdr user.warn kernel: saa7146: register extension 'budget dvb /w video in'.
Dec 31 08:38:11 linvdr user.warn kernel: lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, at major 61
Dec 31 08:38:11 linvdr user.warn kernel: lirc_serial: no version for "lirc_unregister_plugin" found: kernel tainted.
Dec 31 08:38:12 linvdr user.info kernel: lirc_serial: auto-detected active low receiver
Dec 31 08:38:12 linvdr user.warn kernel: lirc_dev: lirc_register_plugin:sample_rate: 0
Dec 31 08:38:12 linvdr daemon.notice lircd 0.7.0pre4[1070]: lircd(serial) ready
Dec 31 08:38:12 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: VDR version 1.3.17 started
Dec 31 08:38:12 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading plugin: /usr/lib/vdr/plugins/libvdr-autotimeredit.so.1.3.17
Dec 31 08:38:12 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading plugin: /usr/lib/vdr/plugins/libvdr-clock.so.1.3.17
Dec 31 08:38:12 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading plugin: /usr/lib/vdr/plugins/libvdr-console.so.1.3.17
Dec 31 08:38:12 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading plugin: /usr/lib/vdr/plugins/libvdr-dvd.so.1.3.17
Dec 31 08:38:12 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading plugin: /usr/lib/vdr/plugins/libvdr-epgsearch.so.1.3.17
Dec 31 08:38:12 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading plugin: /usr/lib/vdr/plugins/libvdr-image.so.1.3.17
Dec 31 08:38:12 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading plugin: /usr/lib/vdr/plugins/libvdr-lcdproc.so.1.3.17
Dec 31 08:38:12 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading plugin: /usr/lib/vdr/plugins/libvdr-manual.so.1.3.17
Dec 31 08:38:12 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading plugin: /usr/lib/vdr/plugins/libvdr-mp3.so.1.3.17
Dec 31 08:38:12 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading plugin: /usr/lib/vdr/plugins/libvdr-mplayer.so.1.3.17
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading plugin: /usr/lib/vdr/plugins/libvdr-osdpip.so.1.3.17
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading plugin: /usr/lib/vdr/plugins/libvdr-osdteletext.so.1.3.17
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading plugin: /usr/lib/vdr/plugins/libvdr-pilot.so.1.3.17
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading plugin: /usr/lib/vdr/plugins/libvdr-sleeptimer.so.1.3.17
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading plugin: /usr/lib/vdr/plugins/libvdr-text2skin.so.1.3.17
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading plugin: /usr/lib/vdr/plugins/libvdr-timeline.so.1.3.17
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading plugin: /usr/lib/vdr/plugins/libvdr-tvonscreen.so.1.3.17
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading plugin: /usr/lib/vdr/plugins/libvdr-vcd.so.1.3.17
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading /etc/vdr/setup.conf
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading /etc/vdr/sources.conf
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading /etc/vdr/diseqc.conf
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading /etc/vdr/channels.conf
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading /etc/vdr/timers.conf
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading /etc/vdr/commands.conf
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading /etc/vdr/reccmds.conf
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading /etc/vdr/svdrphosts.conf
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading /etc/vdr/ca.conf
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading /etc/vdr/remote.conf
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading /etc/vdr/keymacros.conf
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.debug vdr[1086]: reading EPG data from /ramdisk/epg.data
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.debug vdr[1086]: probing /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.debug vdr[1091]: tuner on device 1 thread started (pid=1091, tid=1026)
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.debug vdr[1086]: probing /dev/dvb/adapter1/frontend0
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: found 1 video device
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: initializing plugin: autotimeredit (0.1.4): AutoTimer
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: initializing plugin: clock (0.0.5b1): A Simple Clock
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: initializing plugin: console (0.6.0): Expands VDR to a Console on TV
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: initializing plugin: dvd (0.3.5-b06): turn VDR into an (almost) full featured DVD player
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: initializing plugin: epgsearch (0.0.3): search the EPG for repeatings and more
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: initializing plugin: image (0.2.2): A Image Viewer plugin
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: initializing plugin: lcdproc (0.0.10): LCDproc output
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: initializing plugin: manual (0.0.2): Displays Manual on the OSD
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: initializing plugin: mp3 (0.9.8): A versatile audio player
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading /etc/vdr/plugins/mp3sources.conf
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.debug vdr[1092]: Section handler thread started (pid=1092, tid=2051)
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading id3 cache from /video0/id3info.cache
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: initializing plugin: mplayer (0.9.8): Media replay via MPlayer
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading /etc/vdr/plugins/mplayersources.conf
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: initializing plugin: osdpip (0.0.7): OSD Picture-in-Picture
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: initializing plugin: osdteletext (0.4.1): Displays teletext on the OSD
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: initializing plugin: pilot (0.0.7): A zapping co-pilot
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: initializing plugin: sleeptimer (0.6): Sleep-Timer for VDR
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: initializing plugin: text2skin (0.0.8.1): Loader for text-based skins
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: initializing plugin: timeline (0.8.1): Show timer overview and collisions
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: initializing plugin: tvonscreen (0.6.0): Shows the EPG info in form of a typical TV magazine
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: initializing plugin: vcd (0.0.6c): VideoCD Player
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: setting primary device to 1
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: SVDRP listening on port 2001
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: starting plugin: autotimeredit
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: autotimeredit: INFO: config file not found: [/etc/vdr/plugins/]autotimeredit.conf
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.debug vdr[1086]: autotimeredit: Start
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.err vdr[1086]: autotimeredit: Error while access autotimerfile '/etc/vdradmin/vdradmind.at'.
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading /etc/vdradmin/vdradmind.at
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: starting plugin: clock
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: starting plugin: console
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1093]: console: output handler thread startet (pid=1093)
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: starting plugin: dvd
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: starting plugin: epgsearch
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: starting plugin: image
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: loading /etc/vdr/plugins/imagesources.conf
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: starting plugin: lcdproc
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: saved setup to /etc/vdr/setup.conf
Dec 31 08:38:13 linvdr user.debug vdr[1091]: tuner on device 1 thread ended (pid=1091, tid=1026)
Dec 31 08:38:14 linvdr user.debug vdr[1092]: Section handler thread ended (pid=1092, tid=2051)
Dec 31 08:38:14 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: stopping plugin: vcd
Dec 31 08:38:14 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: stopping plugin: tvonscreen
Dec 31 08:38:14 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: stopping plugin: timeline
Dec 31 08:38:14 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: stopping plugin: text2skin
Dec 31 08:38:14 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: stopping plugin: sleeptimer
Dec 31 08:38:14 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: stopping plugin: pilot
Dec 31 08:38:14 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: stopping plugin: osdteletext
Dec 31 08:38:14 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: stopping plugin: osdpip
Dec 31 08:38:14 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: stopping plugin: mplayer
Dec 31 08:38:14 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: stopping plugin: mp3
Dec 31 08:38:14 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: stopping plugin: manual
Dec 31 08:38:14 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: stopping plugin: lcdproc
Dec 31 08:38:14 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: stopping plugin: image
Dec 31 08:38:14 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: stopping plugin: epgsearch
Dec 31 08:38:14 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: stopping plugin: dvd
Dec 31 08:38:14 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: stopping plugin: console
Dec 31 08:38:14 linvdr user.info vdr[1093]: console: output handler thread stopped
Dec 31 08:38:14 linvdr user.debug vdr[1086]: console: engine destructed
Dec 31 08:38:14 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: stopping plugin: clock
Dec 31 08:38:14 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: stopping plugin: autotimeredit
Dec 31 08:38:14 linvdr user.debug vdr[1086]: max. latency time 0 seconds
Dec 31 08:38:14 linvdr user.info vdr[1086]: exiting
Dec 31 08:38:20 linvdr auth.info login[991]: root login on `tty1'
Dec 31 08:38:40 linvdr cron.notice crond[1114]: crond 2.3.2 dillon, started, log level 8

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Smartkiller:

Klappt trotzdem nicht. Habe als Displaygröße 27x4 angegeben.